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CDO: Winter Break Hours

The CDO wishes you good luck on your final exams and a happy and safe winter break (if we don’t see you before then)!

WINTER BREAK HOURS

Our office will be open during much of the break to assist you with career planning.  The office itself will be closed from December 24th- January 2. However, a few of us are planning to be around on December 29th and 30th, if you need help on those days.  It is always a good idea to call or email ahead during the winter break to confirm hours when counselors will be available.Please check your email during the break for announcements of events that may be happening during break or at the very beginning of the spring semester.You can schedule appointments online (click on the Appointments link on the CDO homepage, call 642-4567, or come by our office).

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CDO: Two Upcoming Interview Programs

PIPS DAY (Feb. 7th, 2009)

Sponsored by the eight Northern California law schools and administered by a San Francisco non-profit organization, the Public Interest Clearinghouse, this is an incredible opportunity to meet and apply for interviews with over 100 public interest and government organizations.  For a list of the employers who participated in this program last February, please visit: http://pic.org/programs/pilp/pipsday.html.

On December 15th, you will be receiving an email from pipsday@pic.org with information about how to register, including a username and password, instructions for accessing the online system, and deadlines.  Be sure your email settings and spam blockers permit email from this address/domain to get through to your inboxes. 

Students who want to interview with employers participating in PI/PS Day will be required to submit their requests and their resumes, cover letters, and other requested materials online to the Clearinghouse by noon on January 16th, 2009.  (NOTE:  The Clearinghouse will not begin accepting online requests and resumes until January 5th, 2008.) 

SPRING OCIP

The CDO is expecting 25-30 employers (both public and private sector) to participate in our Spring OCIP, which will take place at the Hotel Durant during from February 9th to the 25th.  You apply for interviews via the OCI section of the b-Line.  The application deadline is January 20th, 2009. 

Unlike our lottery-based fall OCIP, employers participating in Spring OCIP are permitted to prescreen applicants and invite only those students they are interested in interviewing.

Employers have just started to register and will continue to do so until January 8th.  Beginning on December 19th, you can login and be able to see who has registered so far, but you should continue checking back regularly to view the most current list of participating employers.  You will be able to begin applying for interviews on January 9th but you will need to complete your applications by the end of the day Tuesday, January 20th. 

In order to participate in Spring OCIP, you will need to upload your resume — before you apply or sign up — into the Documents section of b-Line.  Instructions for doing so are posted on the b-Line homepage (in the Announcements section).

Have you had your resume reviewed by a CDO attorney-counselor?  If not, send it to career@law.berkeley.edu.  Please review the online Resume and Cover Letter Writing Guides and the accompanying samples before you draft your materials and send them to us.

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Reciprocity With Law School Career Offices Outside the Bay Area

Students:

If you are looking for a summer or permanent work outside of the Bay area – and are planning on traveling to that area over the winter break – you might want to consider taking advantage of the career services facilities at other law schools located there.  Berkeley Law has reciprocity agreements with schools across the country. Contact us (career@law.berkeley.edu)  for details. Visits need to be arranged by us in advance and we need to give adequate notice to the other school, so please let us know right away if you are interested. 

Keep in mind that many law schools may be on semester break and their business hours during this period may be limited. Call ahead to the career services office at the chosen school before using their services. Find out what services are available to reciprocity students, as not all career services may be available to reciprocity students.

Please note: Berkeley Law has a special reciprocity policy with UCLA and no prior request is required. Students need only show their current Berkeley Law ID to the UCLA staff for access to their career office resources.

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General Timelines for 1L Summer Hiring

Private Sector (large firm): December through March

Private Sector (small firms): January through May

Public Interest: December though May (N.B. PI/PS Day takes place in Feb.) -pslawnet.org is an excellent source for identifying public interest opportunities here in CA and around the world.  

Federal, State and Local Government: December through May

Judicial Externships: timelines vary, but most are December through March - check our Externships Guide (link on the For 1Ls page of the CDO website) for more information about timelines for specific courts.

Research Assistant positions: be proactive and contact professors whom you would like to assist over the winter break

Your focus in your first semester ought to be your studies. It is typical for students to wait until the break to send out cover letters and resumes. The vast majority of opportunities will not have been filled by this time. However, the most competitive employers (in private and non-profit sectors and some federal judges) will start to fill positions in December. If there are certain employers that you are particularly interested in and have reason to believe will be extremely popular among law students, you may want to send your materials soon after the December 1 start date.

Some students choose to do a mass mailing at the beginning of December (when the NALP guidelines permit first year students to send out job applications).  The choice whether to do a mass mailing is yours, but its our experience that the expense and effort are better spent in a smaller number of applications, tailored to a more informed job search.  A generic job application is unlikely to be noticed in the deluge of applications received by employers early in December.

Large firms hire a very small number of first year students, and some large firms do not consider first year students at all. There is no harm in contacting an employer to express your interest, particularly if you possess special qualifications making you a good “fit” with that employer. However, it is unusual to get a job with a big firm in your first summer.  A good source for identifying big firms is the NALP online directory. You can search for firms according to a number of different criteria, including whether or not they have indicated they hire 1Ls for the summer (from the search criteria page, select “1Ls” from the drop down menu next to the line that says “Organizations That Hire”).

Small firms hire on the basis of a short-term assessment of their needs, and while you may want to make an initial contact with small firms in December or January, you should be prepared to hear they have not yet decided on their needs for the summer (or to hear nothing at all). Then, you can follow up with the employers later in the spring (sometimes, the availability of your transcript will provide a good occasion for doing so).  A good source for identifying smaller firms is the Martindale law directory

Do not be discouraged if you find that spring has arrived and you have not yet finalized arrangements for the summer: opportunities continue to become available during the spring and even the early summer.

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CDO: Some Career Resources for 1Ls

The CDO’s 1Ls webpage:  links to a host of information (including a comprehensive list of 1L FAQs) relating to your summer and career options.

Career Counseling: If you would like to discuss your career options and/or job search strategies, schedule an appointment with a CDO attorney-counselor online, call 642-4567, or come by our office - 290 Simon.

Resume and Cover Letter reviews: First-year students interested in receiving advice on resumes and cover letters should read our Resume and Cover Letter Writing Guides, attempt a first draft of a legal resume, and then meet with a CDO attorney-cousnelor to review it. 

NOTE: we have cleared our appointment schedules to conduct quick drop-in resume reviews on the mornings of November 14th, 17th and 18th (9 a.m. to noon) on a first-come, first-served basis.   

The b-Line: a career services application that allows you to do employer research, apply for/bid on interview slots during Spring and Fall On-Campus Interview Programs and, most importantly for this semester, search job listings from employers targeting Boalt students and, for many, submit application materials online.  A quick link to the b-Line can be found on the CDO homepage.

NOTE: The b-Line also contains a searchable database of summer employment evaluations from prior classes.  A quicklink to Summer Evaluations appears on the b-Line homepage.

Summer Public Interest Fellowships webpage:  a resources page that will help you figure out how to fund summer voluntary internship work with government or public interest employers.   

NB:  NALP guidelines indicate that first-year students and employers should not initiate contact with each other before December 1.

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Working in the New Administration (R or D)

We had a great turnout at last week’s program with Dean Edley and Maria Echaveste on how to land a job in the next administration. 

Click here for a recent article on the transition process. 

We also wanted to provide you with links to information on both the White House Fellows Program (Feb 9th deadline for 3L students) and the White House Summer Internship Program.  (The deadline for the Summer 2009 program has not yet been established; however, the deadline for the 2008 summer internship program was Feb. 26th). 

Please feel free to contact Eric Stern in our office for questions on careers in government, public policy and advocacy organizations.

In case you weren’t able to make it to the program with Dean Edley and Maria Echaveste, a webcast is available on the CDO’s Guides and Webcasts page (click on “Other Resources” then “Guides and Webcasts” — it’s entitled, appropriately enough, “How To Get A Job in the Next Administration.”)   

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Opportunity to Network with Criminal Defense Practitioners

The CDO adheres to the general BBB rule against posting event announcements here; instead we post announcements about our events to the Berkeley Law Events Calendar (and the CDO Calendar). 

From time to time, however, we hear about interesting career networking opportunities sponsored by groups external to the School and which take place outside Berkeley Law.  As such, they are not appropriate to include on our internal calendars.  But, we do think they are useful for you to know about, so we’ve created a separate category of BBB posts to announce them called ”Events Away from Berkeley Law.”  

Below is the first such posting for this category, which comes from an organization known as Women Defenders: 

A RECEPTION TO CELEBRATE WOMEN’S SUCCESS IN CRIMINAL DEFENSE

Thursday, September 25

5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

Women Defenders hosts this event annually as a way to connect law students interested in criminal defense to the local criminal defense community.  Usually nearly 100 people attend!  For practitioners, it is a fun event to catch up with colleagues and share your insights and experience with aspiring criminal defense attorneys.  Help grow the criminal defense community by supporting the next generation of criminal defenders!

WHERE:  Clarence & Dyer, LLP, 899 Ellis Street, San Francisco  (Street Parking and Garage Parking Available)

Refreshments will be served.There is no cost to attend this event.Please RSVP to: 510-525-0995 or to: WomenDefenders@aol.com

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CDO: Accepting/Declining OCIP Offers

Just a reminder that all interview invitations and offers deserve and require a prompt response from you.

At this point, you should be familiar with the NALP rules governing the holding open of employment offers. Three key features:

• Offers extended by employers to students who were not previously employed by them will automatically expire 45 days after the date of the offer letter, or on December 30th, whichever comes first.

• The 45-day rule, however, does NOT apply to offers extended to students who were previously employed by the employer making the offer. Those offers, regardless of when they are extended, will remain open until November 15th. After that, they will automatically expire.

• You cannot hold open more than five offers at any one time. For each offer received that places you over the offer limit, you should, within one week of receipt of the excess offer, release an offer.

It is possible to request extensions of the 45-day rule, but employers are not required to give them. When the time comes, if you feel like you need an extension, feel free to contact a CDO attorney-counselor for advice before approaching an employer.

Remember that, while an offer will automatically expire after 45 days, as soon as you know that you would not accept it under any circumstances, you should affirmatively contact the firm and politely decline it (advice on how to decline an offer can be found here). Don’t just ignore the offer and let the clock run out on it. You may think you are sparing yourself an awkward conversation at the low expense of violating one of the basic rules of courtesy. But, it’s more than a matter of mere politeness. Doing nothing would damage your professional reputation and may prevent a fellow student from receiving an offer that he or she values more highly than you.

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CDO: Fall Job Search

With the on-campus interview portion of the fall recruiting season complete, we just wanted to thank all of you who participated for the professionalism, courtesy, and understanding you demonstrated to all involved – employers, hotel (and CDO) staff, and your fellow students.

Even though the callback process is just getting underway (and more callback invitations will continue to be extended over the next couple of weeks), we have already received feedback from a number of firms that the quality and character of the students they saw on campus was as high or higher than it’s ever been. The descriptions they offered included phrases like “wonderfully talented” and “extremely well‑prepared.”

We concur and wish you all the best as you move into the next phase of the process. If questions arise at any point, please do not hesitate to contact us.

In the near future, we will be doing follow-up (surveys and/or focus groups) to solicit your feedback on how the on-campus process can be improved for next year. In the meantime, feel free to offer any comments or thoughts that are fresh in your mind with any one of us.

For those who are working on the alternative timeframe of public interest, government, or a smaller firm search, please stay connected with the CDO attorney-counselors and do not be discouraged. Lots of students find their perfect job later in the fall or spring semester. If you haven’t talked to one of us in awhile, make an appointment now to map out a strategy. Deadlines for some of the more competitive public interest and public sector positions may be coming up sooner than you think.

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OCIP Callbacks

Some OCIP firms have already started extending callback invitations. Now would be a good time to review our online Guide on the subject, which covers callback formats, declining callback offers, thank you notes, and travel arrangements and reimbursements.

Don’t be concerned if you have not yet heard back from firms with whom you interviewed this week. Its not unusual for them to take 3-5 days — some take a week or even more — to make their callback decisions. In some instances, the new NALP rules governing offers taking effect this year (see below) may even operate to slow down callback offers to some candidates.

Feel free to make an appointment with one of the attorney-counselors or drop by the CDO for advice on whether to accept particular callbacks or on how to decline an invitation.

You may also want to take a look at Tab B of the OCIP Guide, which contains NALP’s Open Letter to Law Students, and Bay Area Law Firms Law Student Interviewing Guidelines, both of which provides an employer’s perspective on the recruiting process.

Please remember to continue supporting one another by keeping your OCIP success discussions (with other students) to a minimum.

NALP RULES GOVERNING OFFERS

At this point in the process, you may also want to familiarize yourself with the NALP rules ,governing the holding open of employment offers following callbacks. Here is a quick summary:

· Offers extended by employers to students who were not previously employed by them will automatically expire 45 days after the date of the offer letter, or on December 30th, whichever comes first.

· The 45-day rule, however, does NOT apply to offers extended to students who were previously employed by the employer making the offer. Those offers, regardless of when they are extended, will remain open until November 15th. After that, they will automatically expire.

· You cannot hold open more than five offers at any one time. For each offer received that places you over the offer limit, you should, within one week of receipt of the excess offer, release an offer.

While 3Ls are not required to take a position on their permanent offer from their summer employer until November 15th, if you are otherwise prepared to accept or reject it, there is no reason to wait. Indeed, by promptly rejecting an offer you have no intention of taking, you may be opening up an opportunity to one of your classmates.

It is possible to request extensions of the 45-day rule, but employers are not required to give them. When the time comes, if you feel like you need an extension, feel free to contact a CDO attorney-counselor for advice before approaching an employer.

Terry Galligan

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Beyond OCIP

You should be looking at OCIP as just one tool in your job search toolbox. Those who rely exclusively on OCIP are limiting themselves to a very small slice of the larger legal marketplace (i.e., primarily very large, private sector defense-side corporate law firms).

Take charge of your own career decisions. Consider:

b-Line jobs: Apply directly to many employers who want to recruit Boalt students, but are unable to visit campus. Listings are updated on a daily basis so check back frequently

•applying directly to employers not participating in the OCIP and not in b-Line (contact a CDO attorney-counselor for help in identifying appropriate targets)

Public Interest: Work with Linda Maranzana, our public interest attorney counselor. Also, be sure to check out pslawnet.org.

Public Sector: Work with Eric Stern, our public sector cuonselor. The Government Honors and Internships Handbook is a good place to start your research.

•Use your network: Explore other options with the @Cal Career Network, the Boalt Alumni Network, or contact your undergraduate institution to access its career network opportunities.

In pursuing these other options, you should be sensitive to the timeframe that other employers may be on in considering candidates for positions. For example, regional firms in other cities may be conducting on campus interviews right now at their local law schools. So, it’s not always best to be waiting to see how OCIP works out for you before pursuing other avenues for securing a summer or permanent position.
Talk to one of the attorney-counselors to develop of parallel strategy to OCIP.

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No Summer Offer?

Each Fall, some number of students return to Boalt from their summer jobs without an offer of permanent employment. While this is a difficult situation to be in, it need not become an insurmountable obstacle to finding satisfying employment. CDO’s Strategies for Success When You Do Not Receive An Offer From Your Summer Employer (available on the Guides and Webcasts page of the CDO website) covers some well-proven strategies for succeeding in the on-campus interview program and in other types of job searches. If you would like to discuss your situation (in confidence) with a attorney-counselor, please make an appointment.

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OCIP — The Final Week

Hope everyone is hanging in there as we pass the midpoint for OCIP. We know it’s an exhausting process on a lot of levels, but we hope you can muster some enthusiasm and energy for the employers who are coming during the second week. They are just as interested in Berkeley Law students as those who were lucky enough to have been assigned the first interview days. Among them may be the one that best matches your skills and interests, but you will never know if you choose not to attend the interview.

Here are some things to keep in mind at this stage:

1. If you do not have a good sense of how you are doing at this point, it may make sense to hedge your bets and sign yourself into some additional open slots for next week. There are some great employers (especially those in Palo Alto, LA, and Orange County) that have openings on their schedules at this point. They are making a special trip to come see Berkeley Law students – why not take full advantage?

2. Be mindful of the cancellation policy – you need to cancel by 5pm no less than 3 days before an interview (e.g., 5pm Tuesday is the deadline for cancelling your next Friday interviews), otherwise you have to attend. This means that you should be looking at your interview schedule now for the second week of OCIP, doing your research, and cancelling any in which you are definitely not interested.

Generally, you all have been very conscientious about this and we really appreciate your professionalism (and the consideration you’ve demonstrated for your fellow classmates). However, as OCIP continues, fatigue may heighten the temptation to be a “no-show” or to try to cancel at the very last minute with a non-emergency-based excuse. We hope you understand that we will not be in a position to accommodate these kinds of last minute changes.

Cancelling or not showing up doesn’t just have an impact on you and your schedule. Cancellations affect the employers and current and future Berkeley law students. Employers need time to adjust their travel or work plans to accommodate interview schedule changes. We also need to allow some reasonable amount of time for students to sign in to the slot opened up by cancellations. Finally, an employer faced with several last minute cancellations and no one to fill the schedule gaps may decide not to come to OCIP in the future or may conclude (however unfairly) that Berkeley Law students in general are not reliable.

The enforcement mechanism for this policy (which we need in order to prevent abuse of the system) is that you risk having your remaining interviews cancelled if you don’t follow it (i.e., if you do not show up for an interview and do not have a good emergency-based reason for failing to attend).

If you are truly ill or an emergency arises on the day of your interview and you cannot attend, please contact the Career Development Office at 642-4567 not the Hotel Durant. This should be done only in emergencies or if you are a 3L who has accepted an offer (in which case you will be canceling all your remaining interviews).

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OCIP Interviews Start Monday 8/25 — Some Details

As you all know, on-campus interviews begin at the Hotel Durant (Durant and Bowditch) on Monday, August 25th. Please review your interview schedules on b-Line to ensure that you know the date and time of all your interviews. Remember to bring copies of your resume, transcript, writing sample and list of references to each one of your interviews. You should also have extra copies of these items for your hospitality suite visits (list of hospitality suites/receptions can be found on the homepage of b-Line).

WHERE TO GO ON INTERVIEW DAYS

The room numbers for each of your interviews can be found in the b-Line under the Scheduled Interviews tab. Please make sure you know in which room your interview is being held and try to be there a few minutes in advance of the start time. Interviewers do sometimes run over time, so don’t be surprised if the schedule is running a bit behind, especially if your interview is in the late morning or late afternoon.

The Regents room of the Durant Hotel will be available for you to use as a lounge/waiting area between interviews. It’s located on the first floor (which is actually one floor above the main entrance to the Hotel). We will be placing a couple of desktop computers in each one in case you need to do some quick research. As a back-up, the schedule of firms interviewing each day and their locations (room numbers) will be posted on the bulletin board outside the Regents Room as of about 8:15 am each morning.

INTERVIEWER NAMES

It’s not unusual for employers not to know who they are sending to interviews until relatively last minute. We have asked them — as soon as they know — to enter that information into b-Line. If they have done so, you should be able to see them by viewing the interview details (Click on the Scheduled Interviews tab and then on the underlined interview date). Don’t be surprised if they have not done so, or, if you wind up with a different interviewer than the one they’ve indicated because of a last minute substitution. We do track actual interviewer names as they check in on the morning of the interview, and we enter (or revise) them in b-Line by 10:00 am.

BEING FLEXIBLE

There may be last minute employer cancellations or interviewer substitutions. Interview rooms may also be changed. Please check your email frequently (at least once, preferably twice, a day) — for these types of messages, we will be using your b-Line Profile email address. We will give as much advance warning as we can, but please remember we cannot always do so. We know this is a stressful process for you, but please try to be as flexible (and as patient with us) as you can, as we try to accommodate the needs of nearly 400 employers and 400 students over the course of more than 7000 interviews.

QUESTIONS

There will be CDO staff at the hotel during certain portions of the day, but most questions should be handled by going directly to our office, which will be open an hour earlier, from 8:00 am -5:00 pm, from August 25 - Sept.8th. If you encounter a situation during an interview that you feel is inappropriate, please bring it to my attention right away.

CANCELING INTERVIEWS

Remember also that, if you must cancel an interview, you need to do so via b-Line by the cancellation deadline, which is 5:00 p.m. no less than three days prior to the interview date. After that, cancellations can only be accepted for emergencies and only by contacting me (do not contact the employer directly or the Hotel Durant). Unexcused failures to attend will put your remaining interviews at risk.

PROFESSIONALISM

You should maintain a professional demeanor during every moment you are at the Hotel and not just during your actual interviews. Employers will be milling about the Hotel – in the Lobby, the elevators, the hallways (and in their rooms — with the doors open to the hallways — when they are not interviewing) and will have the opportunity to observe you and perhaps (unintentionally) overhear your conversations in the public spaces of the Hotel.

KEEPING PERSPECTIVE AND BEING SUPPORTIVE

We hope that you will continue to support one another through this process. One of School’s greatest strengths is the way in which members of our community support one another. OCIP can bring out a competitive side in some, which can put a strain on this sense of community. Take it seriously and prepare thoroughly, but remember that getting an offer through OCIP does not mean that you are a better person or even that you are more likely to succeed as a legal professional.

If you find you are doing well and getting “call-backs,” that’s great, but please keep in mind that some of the people you may be talking to — or who may be within earshot of you in Cafe Zeb or at the Hotel or in the library — may be less certain of how they are doing. There are also many of your classmates who have chosen to forego OCIP entirely because it does not fit with their career paths. They may not have their summer job plans finalized until much later. So, please consider the impact of your words on those around you before you start talking about your OCIP results or asking others about theirs.

Best of luck!

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Government Jobs and Programs

Deadline Approaching for DOJ Summer Internship and Post-Graduate Honors Programs

If you are a 2L planning on applying for the Summer Legal Internship Program (SLIP) or a 3L planning on applying for the Attorney General’s Honors Program, the deadline to apply is September 2nd, 2008 at Midnight (EST). For more information on how to apply for SLIP, please click here.

For information about the Honors Program, please click here.

ATTENTION 3L STUDENTS: Presidential Management Fellows (PMF) Program

If you are interested in policy, anaylsis or other non-attorney management-type positions with the government, you should explore options under the PMF Program. For general information, click here.

Contact Eric Stern — estern@law.berkeley.edu — in the CDO for more details. 3L students will be able to apply on-line between October 1, 2008 and October 15, 2008.

Interested in Government Summer Internship & Post-Graduate Opportunities?

UPCOMING PROGRAM
Public Sector Summer and Post-Graduate Job Search Strategies
100 Boalt Hall
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
12:45 PM to 1:45 PM
In addition to the public sector employers participating in Fall OCIP, there are a number of high-profile federal, state and local government agencies with summer and post-graduate opportunities that have upcoming application deadlines. CDO Associate Director Eric Stern will highlight and overview the resources and strategies you need to succeed in your summer and post-graduate public sector job search.

UPDATED ON-LINE RESOURCES
If you are interested in pursuing summer internship or post-graduate opportunities with federal, state and local government agencies, you should review the 2008-09 Government Honors and Internship Handbook, a link to which can be found on our Public Sector Careers page.

New Government Careers List Serve
If you are interested in signing up for the new CDO Government Careers List Serve, please send an email to Eric Stern at estern@law.berkeley.edu to be added.

California Attorney General’s Office
Third year students may register for the Graduate Legal Assistant (post-bar clerk) or Deputy Attorney General exam online. The exam determines your placement on the hiring list. The exam is not substantive, but more like an employment application. To register go here, and then examination request form. The exams are given several times per year. The lists are good for one year. You cannot be considered for employment if you are not on the hiring list.

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